Americans do not support impeachment.  Activists support impeachment.  Activists are 10 %.

Fix Iraq.  Fix the economy.  Help us from losing pensions.  Get Americans Health Care.  Fix our cities.

Put people in poor neighborhoods to work, hopefully rebuilding.

Then maybe I will give a shit about impeachment.  And I am as activist as they come.  And I know it is a waste of time.  And never gonna happen.

So could we set up a chat room for the impeachment obsessed can just talk to themselves.

none of those things will happen while Bush and Cheney are in the White House - in fact all of those problems and thousands more will simply get worse.

in early 1974, no one thought Nixon would be impeached either.

You don't have any idea HOW it will happen.

You don't have any congressional support

You have no idea HOW LONG it will take.

You have NO HARD EVIDENCE

It looks like revenge to Americans.

It won't happen, regardless of hard you close your eyes and squint.

I see nothing on impeachment.  There are vocal proponents, but most people are not interested in this.  They want to solve problems.

If, after oversight hearings, something blatant emerges, you MIGHT see a "movement".  I doubt it, very strongly.

Crimes should be investigated, and if that leads to impeachment, so be it.

But if it appears you've made that that your conclusion and then made the evidence fit the conclusion... that is not a politically wise move, even if it is just and right.  It will be seen as the same old same-old and will make Bush more popular as people side with the perceived underdog.  Look at how Clinton's popularity was affected by his impeachment.

Just about everything Bush does is impeachable. There are presently about 1000 solid reasons to impeach. #1: Stealing 2000 election. #2: Stealing 2004 election. #3: lying about WMD. #4: Letting prostitutes get white house press passes. Etc. Etc. Etc.

The House should impeach him once a day for the rest of his term. It would only take five minutes each time. Yes, I am very serious.

The impeachment of Bill Clinton did not affect his ratings much. But it doomed the campaign of Al Gore. These effects are nonlinear. Let's get a little bit sophisticated, folks, if that is not too radical a thing to ask!

Thanks for the list of pollsters. I was on this meme earlier today on another site.

Yeah, really! Why NO IMPEACHMENT ISSUE polls? ESPECIALLY when the numbers have been over 40% in favor for more than a year? AND the last two polls indicated an upward trend for support AND showed majority support?

Don't listen to dataguy! He still hasn't answered my questions about what HE would rather do instead of impeachment.

HOW do you get legislation passed? And even if you do, HOW do you know that Bush won't sign the bill with great fanfare, and then gut the bill by FIAT?

HOW do you conduct oversight when Bush defies oversight laws and functions, EVEN WHEN his own party is in charge?

HOW do you exercise the power of the purse, with a president who will ILLEGALLY misdirect appropriated funds, even to carry on an undeclared war? Bush did that to start bombing Iraq, and conduct covert operations, and stage troops in preparation for an invasion, WITHOUT any authorization from Congress.

HOW do you conduct oversight with a vice president in office who flatly stated that he will REFUSE to comply with subpoenas from Congress?

dataguy has no answers. Did he challenge you to a wager? Did he tell you to relax and have a beer yet?

And how about the comments dataguy echoes from "the conventional wisdom?" Like "No Republican Senator will vote to convict!"

OH REALLY? Which Republican Senator has stated without reservation that impeachment is entirely out of the question? Which Republican Representative? Answer: NONE.

This talking point is not coming from elected officials. It's being circulated by Republican Party operatives, and dutifully repeated by the media and some on the left who can't foresee that Republican Senators will set aside party loyalty in the face of evidence placed right before them of serial and serious CRIMES committed.

It assumes that the will of the PUBLIC has nothing to do with this. It assumes that the necessity of upholding the constitution and the rule of law established in treaties has nothing to do with this.

The fundamental principles in treaty law that Bush has overthrown, EXIST because the United States has won that diplomatic debate, and countries all over the world have adopted OUR principles of law. It's an ESPECIALLY grave affront to the SENATE to violate treaty law!

dataguy, and other folks in the blogosphere, assume that the blue-trending constituencies of Republican Senators who just narrowly won re-election, and the constituencies of Republican Senators up for re-election in 2008, DON'T MATTER.

And what about the Republican base? Do you really think that, in the context of a national debate, that EVANGELICALS will declare themselves defenders of WAR CRIMES? It's absurd.

And what about Republican Senators running for president? Can they vote to acquit for WAR CRIMES and survive a single primary? Don't make me laugh!

You want names? OK, I've been watching these Senators for years, and I seriously doubt that the following Senators will vote to acquit if the evidence is being hashed out in the media day after day and public support for removal climbs to 70%, which IS VERY POSSIBLE given what the numbers are NOW, with pollsters being oddly silent and the evidence being ignored.

Sen Grassley
Sen Hagel
Sen Collins
Sen Snowe
Sen Warner
Sen Specter
Sen Sununu
Sen Alexander
Sen Smith
Sen McCain
Sen Brownback
Sen Graham

And that's just off the top of my head. I actually went through all of the Senators and guaged the likelihood of their support for conviction, IF there was an active war crimes case pending against the Bush Administration.

The decision on that will be within a month.

So, YEAH! Let's write to the pollsters!

I think at least half of the Kool-Aid drinkers who vote to acquit will be toast next time they are up for re-election.

They won't get away from accountability for such a vote just because Bush and Cheney are removed.

One of the more important by-products of removing Bush and Cheney will be that Gonzales will go down, too, and then the indictments of the racketeers in the Republican House Caucus will start flowing and then those crooks will be expelled in twos and threes over the next year or so.

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I think that impeachment is idiotic, and that impeachment supporters have their heads up their anuses.

But, rather than meaningless insults, I am willing to be gentlemanly.  Let's wager.

I will bet $500 that 1) the House will not vote to impeach Bush AND 2) the Senate will not vote in either way.

I don't think that there is any way that the media and polling organizations can poll about impeachment right now without it coming off as some sort of push polling.

I would probably wait until congressional investigations start and turn up some facts before polling about impeachment.  In the meantime, activists who want impeachment can best realize their goal by working to ensure that meaningful oversight investigations take place.

Boy talk about manipulating data to try and prove your point.  

Other parts of a potential Democratic agenda receive less support, especially calls to impeach Bush: 47 percent of Democrats say that should be a "top priority," but only 28 percent of all Americans say it should be, 23 percent say it should be a lower priority and nearly half, 44 percent, say it should not be done. (Five percent of Republicans say it should be a top priority and 15 percent of Republicans say it should be a lower priority; 78 percent oppose impeachment.

Leaving aside whether impeachment would be a good idea (which it wouldn't...), you have no idea of how polling works.  Pollsters, by themselves, decide nothing, silence nothing, influence nothing.  Pollsters do the polls they are commissioned to do.

If you want to see a poll on impeachment, commission one yourself.  There are any number of polling firms that will do any poll you pay them to do.  In fact, there were a couple of MYDD-speared polls in 2006.  I'm sure that if you ask around here there will be people who will hook you up with the same company.